Does anyone have any views on this monstrous 24 storey development. Guess you can work out my views

We still don t have details we can publish here as there was no printed material to take away from the exhibition. And we ve asked Indigo Public Affairs Ltd , the PR company representing the Tobacco Dock Hotel proposal for copies of the boards on display, but this was the response we received:
We are not instructed at the moment to issue any material as the proposals are still in the pre-planning stage. We will be considering all the comments from local residents who attended the exhibition before finalising the proposals and the design.
Perhaps information will be available soon? We did manage to take some (very poor quality) photos of the boards at the exhibition.  Until we receive anything else they re all we re able to share with you:
Whether a hotel and plaza is the best use for Tobacco Dock is open to debate, but most agree it s a tragic waste to sit empty. Share your thoughts here or directly to the proposal, but have your say before it s too late!
IMHO Wapping needs more shops and restaurants, not hotels. The previous shopping arcade in Tobacco Dock was clearly a commercial failure but then the sheer number of new residents in the area since the early 1990s would almost certainly make a huge difference to the likely success of any retail/restaurants opened there now.
I agree that we need something new in the area, but getting Tobacco Dock back up and running should be a priority. Perhaps that s in the works, too? Seems strange the developer would propose travel agents in singapore a hotel without attaching it to the other. From the timeframe, maybe the developer is trying to get the hotel in operation before the Olympics.
As for the arguments for brick and no metal really? We re not living in the past and the city is changing. As long as the design is sensitive to the area, I don t care much about what the material is. Besides, if I had a choice between the developer building a metal and glass building and helping fix the area or having them abandon the project because brick building is too expensive, travel agents in singapore I d choose the former. Let s work to fix our area!
as I understand it, the consultation was an attempt by Medina House, working through Indigo Public Affairs, travel agents in singapore to reduce the number of objections when they file for planning permission. It has no legal standing and is entirely optional.
I went along to the unadvertised unknown public travel agents in singapore , consultation which if it wasn t for this site I would have never heard of and I only live 100 yard away from the site. These publication consultations should have minimum attendance numbers set, otherwise there is little incentives to be too open and public as you have to adhere to what others want not what you want, take Wapping travel agents in singapore 21, how did that get planning, all the comments I heard were brick, no glass, no metal, exact opposite of Wapping 21 so how did that get planning, consultations on the quiet is my guess we really should seriously looking into get that project size and design changed even at this late stage, once up it will be up forever.
I think for sure they want or wanted to (post feedback) to create a glass block hotel, I don t buy the PR persons take that this was a temporary drawing, all planning applications show a design of the actual look and feel of the building, after all this is the single most important part of the planning, especially after the drawings were so detailed on all other aspects. Who attends travel agents in singapore a planning presentation without a building design, no-one, care should be taken to ensure if planning it is 100% condition on design being in-keeping with the area and in-keeping is stipulated by residents not builders / designers / developers, who have a vested interested in keeping down costs and cutting corners.
The plaza would simply not be used, there is no reason to go there, travel agents in singapore there is not a single shop in it, this plaza is clearly and utterly designed to create a lovely view for the customers as they eat their breakfast as only restaurant, hotel rooms and lobby are internally facing. If this was truly a plaza for the community to use there would be shops facing internally, a nice cafe, an ice-cream palour or the like to enjoy in the summer sun, restaurant (hotel customers would also appreciate a choice), something in the plaza for the local residents, perhaps a tasteful small mini/fun golf course, this works well at Devonshire Square, something there extra the residents, perhaps a nice mock old pub, with two levels travel agents in singapore and a balcony that people can over look the plaza, travel agents in singapore rather like Covent Garden and then the plaza can be open for public shows etc. None of this was well received by the developers, this was a direct NO, not really listen to views on this, I presume because they see this taking away what they are designing the plaza for, the hotel customers only. So if this is not for the residents, as we have established, then what is, we should set conditions so clearly the community travel agents in singapore gets something out of it, is these plans are to go ahead,
Height this should be low and respectful. One gentleman made a very good point, the height travel agents in singapore around the plaza of the building travel agents in singapore is all the same size, so no sun would get into the plaza, what an unpleasant miserable place that would be, height needs to be lower at the end where the sun would come in to let the sun fill the plaza
Plaza this should be more for the residents than customers, after all this is the bribe by the developer on what we are getting out of this and therefore if it is, make it for the customers less and more for residents
TD agree should be conditional on getting this lovely structure working as a venue, if they don t want shops in the plaza then there should be a minimum condition of number of shopping travel agents in singapore units to be create in TD or as earlier suggestions, why not let this at cheap rent for local businesses to have office space currently travel agents in singapore TD is split into units and could be easily used for such but it stands wasted and dis-used.
Pier contribute enough travel agents in singapore to get this project off the ground, same if not more than that which Ballymore bribed THH with to build Wapping 21, does anyone know how much they have contributed? travel agents in singapore An active pier can only make more access to the hotel.
As residents I think we need to be very organized to ensure that one consistent message gets through to the developers so that they can t play one idea off against another, this way we can be sure of the way this development will be managed.
Interesting report Josephine. I certainly didnt get a flyer. Anyone else get one? I think their comment about cars has some validity but i think their comment about hoping it would generate interest in Tobacco Dock is, well, shall we say hopeful? Disingenuous might be more accurate. I think any permission to build the hotel should be tied to getting TD full and working.
The architect and a PR person were there. They kept stressing travel agents in singapore that at the moment the project is an idea with nothing set in concrete regarding the plans they need to hear what locals think before they get to that stage.
Messila are the company proposing the hotel idea and they own Tobacco Dock. The question why build something new when TD remains empty was asked by several people while I was there. travel agents in singapore No particular answer except travel agents in singapore that they would hope that the hotel would generate interest in TD. The hotel complex would only have one shop (ie thereby not overshadowing need for shops to open in TD)
What was a bit confusing was that the exhibition boards displayed a computer generated image of a glass cube hotel. When people voiced the view that they d want a hotel to blend into the surroundings (unlike Wapping 21) ie brick, not ridiculously tall etc, the architect said that the picture wasn t what the hotel would look like and that it would be brick. I don t really understand why they d generate an image of a glass one for people to look at if that s the case
Another question raised was parking. They said firstly that they were aiming at people who would arrive travel agents in singapore by taxi mainly or that the area is so well served by public transport cars wouldn t be necessary. Secondly they said there is plenty of empty space in the car park opposite. They wouldn t be creating any more parking space as part of the project.
Incidentally they said they d sent 2000 flyers out locally. I didn t get one. It was only through travel agents in singapore this site that I and my neighbours new about this presentation. Wondering if anyone out there got the flyer?
Personally, at this stage I m undecided. Need more info on how they are actually planning the hotel to look. I m slightly dubious about whether a hotel would work there but I may be being shortsighted. If they get planning permission they are, of course, hoping to catch the 2012 crowd but would the momentum remain after that? I don t know. If it doesn t will we just be left with two empty buildings next to one another?
I think a hotel is a good thing if it brings more jobs to the area, but I do worry that these are the same people who have left Tobacco Dock empty. I don t know the full details of what stage the plans are at but we should keep an eye on it and feedback to the appropriate authorities.
I think Mark makes a very good point, there should be greater contributions to the community if these plans are to go ahead, current offering, as with most proposals, are the initial base the hope to get away with. I think office space for small started businesses is a very good idea as there is nothing around Wapping at all and could offer long term higher paid jobs to the area.
The Wapping Lane development, looking at the planning permission, were asked to make a £1.25M contribution to a new health centre which the planners rejected however were happy to approve a property travel agents in singapore that doesn t meet environmental or density parameters set?
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