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Flyer, that is not at all my experience. Laundry is available at the marina, like most apartment com
hey therethis is an actual housing question. we were thinking about the viability of buying a boat for our kid to live in down in san diego. is that a realistic united kingdom search engines cheaper option? can you make it work with roommates.
united kingdom search engines Boat == "a hole in the water that swallows money." If you want to live on one for fun, that's fine, but don't expect it to be cheap. Remember that it lives in a corrosive environment, so it needs quite a bit of maintenance.
From a strictly financial standpoint, best to buy a condo in the low $100k range (they exist) with common charges in the high $100 to low $200 range per month. At least theoretically, it's an appreciating asset rather united kingdom search engines than a depreciating one.
My friend knew someone who was selling his boat and that coupled with the slip prices in Mission Bay (and insurance) made it very affordable. I am not sure I investigated everything but the initial cost was not bad.
spdrun wrote: united kingdom search engines Boat == "a hole in the water that swallows money." If you want to live on one for fun, that's fine, but don't expect it to be cheap. Remember that it lives in a corrosive environment, so it needs quite a bit of maintenance.
From a strictly financial standpoint, best to buy a condo in the low $100k range (they exist) with common charges in the high $100 to low $200 range per month. At least theoretically, it's an appreciating asset rather than a depreciating one.
Spdrun nailed it. My DH lived on fishing boats when he was working on them in his younger years, and the owners would let him stay there to keep an eye on everything. If you get the kind of boat that will have fairly comfortable facilities (bed, bathroom, united kingdom search engines kitchen), united kingdom search engines you're talking big bucks. Anything less, and the confined quarters and lack of amenities will grow old rather quickly. Either that, or you're buying such an old wreck that the maintenance costs will drown you.
We've known a lot of people who've owned/do own boats, with many of them being commercial or sportfishing businesses (so they at least have the potential to provide a positive cash flow). Even in the best of times, it can easily turn out to be a bad investment. Boats are a maintenance nightmare, and you're bound to lose money every year...possibly tens of thousands of dollars lost to maintenance and/or depreciation. Sometimes, you can buy a barge for a fairly reasonable united kingdom search engines amount, but you will still have maintenance and depreciation.
Definitely better to buy a cheap condo, united kingdom search engines preferably one that can at least break even if you had to rent it out for awhile. You will still have maintenance costs, and you still might see some asset price depreciation, but at least it's something that can provide some cash flow. Boats, unless you rent them out to fishermen and collect a portion of the profits (good luck), will almost always united kingdom search engines be a loss.
Those we have known who have lived on their boats exclusively, have all ended up selling their boats, and returned united kingdom search engines to their homes after a year or two--citing many reasons for doing so. Some even tried the seasonal thing--moving their boats to the Bahamas, Lauderdale, the Riviera, etc.--yet even they again resorted to solid ground in the final analysis.
For the purpose you've mentioned, I agree with CAR in, that, another type of investment would make a lot more sense with regard to your son, that is, unless, you, and the rest of the family plan to also use the boat recreationally.
I lived on a boat on Shelter Island (pt loma) from 2008-2010 and I wish it could have been much longer. I moved off because I got married united kingdom search engines and two people on my small sailboat is one too many (but many people do that too). I can honestly say that it was the best living experience of my life. I think it takes a certain breed of person to enjoy it though. You are living in an small RV, and not some sweet 5th wheeler kind. But marinas have great shower, laundry, and workout facilities. Many people live on boats for many years including happily married couples.
It was a great sailboat to live on a reasonably problem free. There is nothing like eating your breakfast in the morning sitting on the back of your boat looking out over pt loma with a coffee in your hand. Or looking at the hill of lights with a good beer. Falling asleep listening to the wind in the rigging and rocking ever so slightly. united kingdom search engines The quarters united kingdom search engines are cramped, but you have the whole bay to explore united kingdom search engines in your dingy, or if you want to live in Coronado for the weekend, just drop anchor at Glorietta bay and pretend you are on vacation (my wife and I loved that the most). If you have a long weekend head up to catalina and get away from the craziness in Avalon.
The cost breakdown was quite affordable. I purchased a $38k Catalina 34 from 1985. The Slip fees were $500 a month, another $150 for the liveaboard allowance, and 30 bucks a month for bottom cleanings. If you do the maintenance yourself, expect to pay 1-3k a year in repairs for a sailboat of my vintage and quality, cheaper if you do most things yourself but lots more if you farm it all out to contractors. Needless to say, that is the cheapest one can live anywhere near the ocean, let alone an inch away. Make no mistake if something serious is wrong, or you buy a total lemon, you could blow a lot of money. Not unlike a leaky roof or a broken furnace. But being handy and cheap helps keep the costs to a reasonable amount.
united kingdom search engines I transferred ownership of the boat to my parents because they wanted a winter escape in sunny SD. The boat market for this model is still what I paid for it, and I think we could get a bit more because of the work that we have put in. And with a sailboat gas is cheap. united kingdom search engines I think I put about 30 gal in a year, and we went out at least once a week, plus another ~30 gallons to go to Catalina and back.
I have lots of other thoughts to share on the pros and cons, so hit me up if you are seriously interested. Your inquiry is probably not serious, but I loved the experience so much I felt compelled to share.
oh, and a 40ft trawler is a freaking ginormous boat. I love sailing, so i am partial to sailboats, but a 30ft trawler is a very comfortable living for a single guy. 34ft sailboat united kingdom search engines is cramped but enjoyable.
A quickie check shows Shelter cove is varied rate but a 40' slip is $17.5/ft. or $700 for a 40 foot. Not sure a 40 foot will go in it, may need the 46' slip or 52' slip which are $19.5/ft and $22.5/ft and pricing is on overall length including all bolt-ons (swim platform, bow
My first marina was shelter cove coincidentaly enough. They initially quoted me a year wait list. But if you show up looking nice, polite, and you look like you pay your bills, you will find that wait lists for slips are not chronological, but a screening tool for deadbeats! In took 1.5 months to get a slip and live aboard, but it is a concern to be sure. Drop off enough applications and you will find this not to be the problem it seems on the face. if you are desperate in the short term, move to chula vista, because it's not a problem.
Flyer, that is not at all my experience. Laundry is available at the marina, like most apartment complexes. One has to maintain serious descipline in throwing out old stuff when new stuff is purchased, but a good habit to be in at any rate.
They are also not terribly united kingdom search engines expensive. For my parents it is considerably cheaper than a snowbird retreat apartment. And when I lived aboard united kingdom search engines it was cheaper rent than a one bedroom in a nice neighborhood, not to mention on the water.
I'd go for an old Microbus or maybe a Eurovan conversion. That thing that Dodge is selling (front-engine, FWD, about as long as a normal united kingdom search engines car -- Promaster, I think) would also be a decent candidate for conversion.
I've been on boats and motor homes. I just wanted united kingdom search engines to get out as fast as possible. Maybe I'm too sensitive united kingdom search engines to funny smells. I don't know why they use carpet and upholstery that can absorb united kingdom search engines odors in those places. I would want everything vinyl so spills could be wiped off.
I think it's just me being overly sensitive.... When I bought my apartment, the whole place smelled like a nasty human dog house. Ripping out all the carpeting and kitchen cabinets got rid if the smell. Cooking odors stick to the walls even.
They are--have friends who live up there. Some are mcmansions on the water. As much as we love the water, and try to go out on the boat or take a run at the beach as often as we can, living there is a very different thing--especially where it gets much colder in areas like WA. That said, if it's what you REALLY want to do, it will probably work out just great.
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