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We have a 16 and order it without the furnace thinking it was not necessary (we had camped many year


Today I saw a used Scamp in town, Florence Oregon and stopped and asked if they might be interested in selling it, the lady said she did not know but would ask her husband so I left my name and number, Jim Wellington called this afternoon and invited los angeles ca me to come take a look at it. I had not been in a Scamp before so was curious how it would feel to me. It felt good. Jim is a member here which I found interesting and was very happy to show off his fairly new to him toy.
I think the main difference is that it takes a lot of ice to keep an icebox cool, usurping space for food. Also, an icebox needs a drain for the melted ice. The fridge, using either electricity or propane , gives you more space for food in the same sized package, and does not have a drain to drain off water. I am not familiar with the specific model fridge that Scamp uses.
If you have a connection for City Water , then when you connect los angeles ca a white hose (potable water) the faucet has pressure from the source to run on it s own . If you are drawing water from an on-board supply tank, It has to be pressurized somehow, either with a hand pump at the faucet, or an electric pump either at the faucet or near the supply tank.
5. I got the Scamp awning and it works okay. Because of the fiberglass design, the legs do not mount to the side of the trailer los angeles ca as normally seen on trailers. This results in a need to stake or weigh them down, which is indeed los angeles ca a bit flimsy, but the awning itself is sturdy enough. Joy used a better awning with a crank that is easier to use, but requires getting the mounting brackets and installing it.
One point on several of these questions. This is a small trailer and we have a small tow vehicle. los angeles ca There s not a lot of room so built-ins like the refrig and grey water tank are preferable to us than add-ons like a cooler with ice and the blue tote mentioned by Frederick, although add-ons do seem to accumulate whether you plan for them or not!
We didn t want the hood. But I very much like the optional little awning window above the stove. It is left open when others can t be, and gives us fresh air at night. No a/c for us as we try to avoid hot climates. So for us the fantastic fan is a must.
No furnace in our unit. When plugged into electricity we use a cube. We like to sleep in the cold, so all we need is the stove top burner heating our water for coffee and wash to warm us up in the morning. It warms the trailer nicely. I would probably consider los angeles ca the heater only if I wanted to do truly winter camping in temps below 30-40 degrees.
We got neither the ice box nor the fridg, I wanted the space, and have put wire rack for storage. We travel (not camp) for the most part and we take our food with us in the car. It is a bit of a nuisance when it is time for morning breakfast, los angeles ca but this works for us.
Also no water tank in our unit. That is where the big sleeping blankets are kept, for the cold nights without heat. We just carry gallon jugs of water, works for us. We have rigged a small 2 gal water bottle (or detergent bottle) inside under the sink for grey sink water. This makes us able to use the sink when at WalMart overnight.
Obviously my not at all loaded rig probably won t have much use for resale, since people tend to want loaded units. los angeles ca Basically you need to think of how your unit will be used, will you camp in one spot for a week? Or will you want to have a motel room on wheels?
Our bare bones Scamp weighed in empty at 1,340. los angeles ca That did not include the weight on the hitch. I m guessing that to be 170. My empty Scamp options were the fantastic fan, screen door, front and rear overhead cabinets, group 27 battery . This Scamp does not have the refer, water tank, heater, or a/c. Would like to have a 5 or 10 pound propane los angeles ca but will keep the 20 pound because it is there.
So, Element owners beware los angeles ca that some 13 feet Scamps weigh in at close to 2,000 pounds. Check your owners manual and be aware that if still under warranty you might be voiding that (also liability issues).
We have a 16 and order it without the furnace thinking it was not necessary (we had camped many years in the 80 s and 90 s without one which was working) and it eats a lot of juice from the battery . We use an electic space heater with shore power and use a Coleman propane heater if needed in the mornings or at night after showering, etc. we keep the roof vent opened a little to vent out fumes. We do not sleep with it going. A Coleman propane lantern will heat up the area quickly los angeles ca as well, we use on in the old camper. Keep it vented as well.
I do not have the standard equiptment list from Scamp now. I can not remember if the hand pump is standard. We have a on demand pump, which is electric, the pump shuts off when a certain pressure is made; the pump can be turned on and off. Way back when, some trailers had an air pump which would put air pressure into the tank which would force the water out, as far as I know they are not around any more. A friend had an older air stream with that type of system. Not Scamps at least not now. The electric pump pumps water and build up water pressure stops the pump. No air pressure. The hand pump does not pump air but just pumps water out of the tank. The tanks are not air tight, they are vented.
We order the factory awning, it is not as heavy weight as the ones we had on the old travel trailer we had from the 80 s, but opererates better than that one; nor as sturdy as the one we had on a 96 C-class motor home. I looked at the one on the 5th Escape while it was in Las Cruces last week, it was more sturdy than the Scamps. All said, I would get it again, just to have shade and rain cover when we need them.
A couple los angeles ca of questions. You say you have neither the ice box or fridg, did you order it this way or just take out the ice box after you got it? Did they lower the price if you did not have the ice box installed?
We ordered our Scamp the way we wanted. The ice box would have come but we didn t want that. Instead they gave us a door! Didn t want to adjust the price and I really didn t press the issue. Just knew I didn t want the ice box, was happy for the door.
Since we didn t get the furnace we have two narrow doors under the sink. If I had only known. I would much rather have a large door to match the ice box door. We can t very well change it now as there is some structural support between the two narrow doors. los angeles ca If being built new I wonder if they couldn t put more support around the door and have it be a larger door to match the other. I have trouble getting my grey water tank in and out of those narrow los angeles ca doors. Have to take my stuff out of the ice box door and then get my grey water tank out of the bigger door.
I do like the fact that our Scamp does not have the vents in the side required for the refer, furnace. I do like all my extra space. Vacation to me is not cooking and housekeeping, so the refer isn t important. We camp in cooler climates los angeles ca and cold drinks aren t necessary. An ice chest keeps our cheese, lunch meat, eggs, yogurt just fine. This system works well for the way we live.
I just reread your post and noticed that your tongue weight is not quite 10%. If you ever notice any sway shift some gear to the front bunk. Now you have an Odyssey too. We do have to keep the load light in the rear of the Oddy, and we drop a bit when hitched up to go. Lights hit high but we only drive during the day and the Honda and trailer perform very well so will not add air shocks or equalizer.
Thanks for the advice, especially since we have a 50# generator that we will be putting in the Odyssey rear hold. However I am going to see if I can remove the 3rd row seats since we don t need them, and that will save us about 100#.

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