Regardless, I don't disagree that the casino hotels are cheaper. I even think that the likes of the

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Looking for a good hotel, that is not in a hot location in Las Vegas. We are meeting European san francisco hotel reservation friends there and while they want a good hotel with good amenities, they do not necessarily want the fancy hotels on the Strip.
Honestly, though, I would stay on the strip. There are lots of hotels at a lot of price points, most at a great value. And you are near the restaurants, etc. Plus, it is Vegas and I would go for the full experience as opposed to staying in a suburb.
We have stayed out in Summerlin, since we had friends who lived there. But haven't been to Vegas in a few years. (not since that whole "city" center was built) so I have to learn about it all over again!
The Signature at MGM is officially on the strip , but is a couple of blocks off. It is swanky and without a casino and smoke, it is a great choice. We got a great deal by watching the prices. I booked and rebooked several times with no penalty as the rates dropped leading up to arrival. In fact, I rebooked just a day or 2 before arrival to get the best price of all.
The Platinum is non-gaming and very nice. THE Hotel at Mandalay Bay is set apart from the main casino hotel and easy to get to from the airport. There are also a couple of hotels out at sleepy Lake Las Vegas. Is this just for one night?
san francisco hotel reservation Thanks everyone for good ideas. I don't particularly like the Lake Las Vegas location, seems just too far out for me, though very pleasant in and of itself. Though I think Summerlin might be OK, cuz I am familiar with that area, i am partly of the mind that Tomsd mentioned: why go to Vegas if you don't stay on the strip? Particularly for our friends who are coming from Europe, and have never been to Vegas
Depending when you are going (e.g. conventions, big events, holidays, etc.), most of the hotels are very reasonable. I've seen the likes of the MGM or Mandalay Bay - good hotels both - for around $100 per night. If you really wanted to go cheap, I'd maybe look at the Luxor, which I've seen in the $60-range and lower. I think Harrah's is in that same price range and in a good, central location. san francisco hotel reservation I have not stayed at either, but I'm guessing they are probably san francisco hotel reservation about as good as an older Sheraton-type place judging by the reviews. san francisco hotel reservation Excalibur is even cheaper, but I'm guessing pretty dumpy. Ditto for The Quad, which I think caters to the college/recent grad crowd.
I'd be a little surprised if you were able to beat the cheap Strip (e.g. Quad or Excalibur) or even mid-tier (e.g. Luxor or Harrah's) properties for pricing if you were to stay in Summerlin. To get something cheaper than those mid-tier Strip properties, I'd think you'd need to look at 1) Downtown, 2) maybe Henderson, 3) one of the off-strip casinos, like the Station chain, san francisco hotel reservation or 4) "fringe Strip" places (Circus Circus, Riviera, Stratosphere).
Personally, I like mid-Strip. We've stayed most recently san francisco hotel reservation at the Encore and, before that, at the Mandarin Oriental. We preferred the Mandarin Oriental location, primarily because we thought that area (esp. City Center/Cosmopolitan) had a better (for our tastes) concentration of restaurants. That being said, both locations were pretty good. That being said... We went to several places off-Strip san francisco hotel reservation for dinners and lunch on our last trip, so the location would be less of an issue in a situation like that.
Debit: it appears that with "thankyou" points, we can even stay at Mandarin san francisco hotel reservation Oriental or Four Seasons! Big choice! And with Marriott Rewards, maybe it is just Marriott- affiliated hotels. I have to check that.
Marriott points san francisco hotel reservation can be used at the Cosmopolitan. SPG points can be used at the Caesar's hotels. Hyatt points can be used at MGM properties. Honestly, though, unless you have a ton of points or prices are high, I've never found redemptions in Vegas to be very good value.
I'm not sure I'd ever pick a non casino hotel. It seems you get less for your money at those places, while the casinos offer more for your money and make it up in their casinos. I also agree, I'd save Marriott points for other destinations instead of generally "cheaper" Vegas.
Although I ended up staying at Paris because of price/location, my two final contenders when I did my research were Vdara (all non-smoking, non-casino) and The Signature. Both have kitchen san francisco hotel reservation facilities. And, definitely use the smartervegas website for promo codes DebitNM (thanks, btw) mentioned.
I wouldn't stay at a mid-market non-casino hotel, as I would agree that you get better value at many casinos. san francisco hotel reservation But at the high end, both the Mandarin Oriental and the Four Seasons will offer better service than you will get in one of the big casinos (unless you are a high roller, or staying in an expensive suite). Crowding and wait times for services can also be an issue at some of the larger casinos.
For example, I stayed at the Encore over Christmas. Nice facilities. Good service, for the most part. Room was definitely five star. But you saw the downsides - you couldn't call ahead for your car, there was no turn-down service, ice was down the hall (rather than brought to your room), san francisco hotel reservation you waited in a line (complete with ropes) for check-in. Just little things that set the Mandarin Oriental apart. Now, some of that is of limited value (I actually like having ice down the hall), but a five-star casino hotel is not the same as a true five-star.
In May, though, I think the single san francisco hotel reservation biggest reason to favor the Mandarin Oriental (or Four Seasons) is the pool situation... You get your own quieter private pool. The chairs are nice. There are umbrellas san francisco hotel reservation available. There is chair service. The pools at the bigger resorts san francisco hotel reservation are often zoos or, worse, pool parties.
I doubt I'd disagree with that, but do the true five star non casino hotels offer special rates even remotely close to the five star casino hotels? I mean if money is no object, then sure. Maybe I was wrong, but I assumed when the OP asked, it wasn't really a "sky's the limit" question.
Truly, What has changed my perspective (and maybe my mind) is that I realized I have accumulated hundreds of points, so, by using them, we might pretend the fancier hotels are not really so expensive.
Then I stand corrected. I wasn't talking about "rack rates". We get Wynn offers for around $129 a night (Sun to Thurs) fairly often. So you're saying that Mandarin Oriental runs specials frequently at around $ 154 a night? That surprises me. Or did you miss that what I was saying is that casino hotels OFTEN give amazing deals, but I was unaware that the non casino hotels did the same.
taconictraveler, sure a woman can change her mind (and men can too), but honestly I missed the post that suggests you were changing yours. I was really speaking to those talking about the really chic and fancy hotels that I thought you specifically san francisco hotel reservation WEREN'T looking for.
Neither am I. I am talking about opening your computer and going to Expedia or similar and comparing prices. For the gambler, yes, you may see better specials if you are in the players' club at a casino. It does not, to me, sound as if the OP is a big gambler.
san francisco hotel reservation Back to the OP, one option for you (may not help your friend), would be to look at vacation packages. That is what we did for Christmas, and the savings worked out to be something in the $100 per night range. I think the savings was really off the quite expensive san francisco hotel reservation airfare, rather than the hotel, but it was savings over the total cost.
OK, sorry, for the use of the term "rack rates". But honestly, there is a huge difference between paying the typical $300 or so listed with Expedia or someone and using the very frequently offered specials of $129 or so.
The bottom line? I don't think I've ever paid more than $129 to stay at Bellagio, Palazzo, or Wynn (at least during the week), and those discounts are easy to come by. But I don't think you can get anything like that for non casino hotels. OK?
The Vegas hotel market works totally different from any major city hotel market in the US. I certainly might use Booking.com or Expedia in most cities, but it would be "throwing my money away" in Las Vegas. If you're even thinking of going to Vegas, sign up for specific casino hotels' specials and stand back for the avalanche of emails and mailers.
I sign up for those emails, san francisco hotel reservation but do not really gamble san francisco hotel reservation (when I do, it is low limit at the El Cortez). I've usually been able to replicate the rates I receive san francisco hotel reservation on Expedia. And I haven't seen an email from the Wynn or any other high-end hotel since January san francisco hotel reservation 2nd. I have, however, gotten a lot of emails from Excalibur.
I don't think I'd pay that much for the Bellagio. Good location, but it is a dated hotel that exemplifies the fact that money does not buy taste. The F B program there is also kind of wanting considering the space it wants to play in.
Regardless, I don't disagree that the casino hotels are cheaper. san francisco hotel reservation I even think that the likes of the MGM or Mandalay Bay represent san francisco hotel reservation outstanding value. What I do disagree with, however, is that the Wynn is in the same league as the Mandarin Oriental or Four Seasons.
I especially think that, during the summer months, the more pleasant pool experience at those places is worth a fair bit of money. The casino hotels would seem to agree, san francisco hotel reservation given that they charge a pretty penny to upgrade to a comparable experience.
san francisco hotel reservation It isn't that different. The notion that casinos want to give away the rooms to get you into the casino hasn't been true in 10 years or more. They know that people have a lot more options san francisco hotel reservation to gamble and that they have to sell the resort. It is the same reason you don't see $3 buffets or $1.99 prime rib specials. All of the big casino companies seek to have non-gaming revenue comprise well over 50% of their total revenue. How it differs is that they have a lot of capacity and highly cyclical demand. This leads to some dee