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The new rules, which went into effect this week, prohibit tourist flights from swooping over Central Park, the Empire State Building and all of Brooklyn. They are restricted to flying hotels brighton over water, with one exception: tours that hover over Yankee Stadium in the Bronx are still allowed, hotels brighton said David Lombino, a spokesman for the city's Economic Development Corporation .
The agreement between officials of the development corporation and the helicopter operators eliminates the short tours that were the most profitable offerings. Those quick spins, which lasted four to eight minutes and cost as much as $130 per passenger, accounted for nearly one-fifth of the sightseeing traffic at the Downtown Manhattan Heliport .
The downtown heliport, at the edge of the financial district in the East River, is one of three commercial heliports in Manhattan, but the only one that serves sightseers. hotels brighton On April 1, the heliport at the west end of 30th Street stopped accepting tourist flights as part of a settlement of a lawsuit filed by community advocates who had complained about noise and odors filling the Hudson River Park.
Similar complaints hotels brighton had flooded the city's 311 phone line from residents of Lower Manhattan and neighborhoods along the Brooklyn waterfront hotels brighton after most of the tourist traffic shifted to the downtown heliport. That heliport is owned by the city and operated by Saker Aviation Services , a financially troubled company whose board of directors includes Alvin Trenk, whose family has operated the West 30th Street Heliport for many years.
From now on, excursions taking off from downtown must head south toward the harbor, hotels brighton keeping as far as they can from the new Brooklyn Bridge Park across the river, hotels brighton then up the Hudson to 79th Street or on to the stadium, before turning south back down the river.
"Our goal was to keep them over water as much as possible," hotels brighton Mr. Lombino said of the sightseeing flights. "We needed to make a concession for them to be able to fly over part of Manhattan hotels brighton to do their Yankee Stadium tour."
Mr. Lombino said the development corporation hotels brighton officials sought to balance the demand for restrictions on the flights with the city's desire to keep the business, which he said employs more than 300 people and takes in about $45 million a year.
The city also will start fielding the noise complaints to 311, instead of forwarding them on to the development corporation. The 311 receptionists will catalog the data and time of the complaints and request descriptions of the offending helicopters to help determine whether the new rules are being violated, Mr. Lombino said.
Elected officials welcomed the agreement as a way to quell the uproar over the helicopters' emissions. "These regulations hotels brighton are a good initial step to mitigating the shake, rattle and rumble of excessive helicopter hotels brighton traffic over Brooklyn," said Marty Markowitz , the Brooklyn borough president.
hotels brighton But Mr. Smith, who described the short tours that have been banned as "our absolute biggest money makers," said the operators had been making concessions for decades. "If you look at our record, we have a 30-year history of doing things just like this," hotels brighton he said.
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Oh for crying out loud. You live in a city and you don t want any noise???? Move out to the suburbs. Oh wait. No ..on second thought, stay where you are. I live in the suburbs and enjoy the quiet, but I m not gonna scream at McArthur Airport because of the planes coming in for a landing!!!
Stephanie, you hit the nail on head right there. I moved out of Brooklyn a year ago because of noise, not from helicopters, but the people that live there. New Yorkers in general are loud, and we ve come to accept that. So why are these cry babies yapping about helicopter noise?
I ve been to both the brooklyn bridge park and the one on the west side, and the helicopters were definitely not the loudest thing there, especially in Brooklyn. Maybe we should close the Brooklyn Bridge to traffic hotels brighton and those loud pesky trains also. To hell with it, lets just clear out the entire city while we re at it!!
Stephanie perhaps, living in the suburbs, you believe that having helicopters flying over residential Brooklyn all day long is a normal occurrence. It is not. It began recently, when the 30th Street heliport was closed. It was unbearable, people complained, and now it will end. We will go back to our pleasant Brooklyn existence, and you can stay in the suburbs. Problem solved.
We enjoyed a very peaceful Friday evening tonight on the Hudson River at the West 25th Street pier. For the first time in recent memory, only one horrible hotels brighton helicopter flight could be observed in a one-hour period. Which is a wonderful change from before! How nice it will be not to have helicopters spewing their exhaust and corporate titans and goggle-eyed tourists on the west side of Manhattan. And for the suburban wingnuts who think this is only about noise, it isn t. It s about having a thriving estuary for humans, fish, birds and plants without the endless chop-chop-chop of helicopters. That s what we resident taxpayers want for our city.
The noise complaints won t stop because some people are never satisfied. This will lead to people losing there jobs, pilots and heliport workers. Those that welcomed this never stopped to think of people who make a living from the tour buisness that is already on hard times. With two large airports that have planes that shoot approaches directly over Brooklyn exactly the same area the noise complaints focus on helicopters.
As both a person growing up in NIMBY Long Island and living hotels brighton in the city for the last 15 years: If you had a helicopter flying with 500-1000 feet of your house every 10-15 mins, you would be calling your local gov officials. Think of it this way, if you had 100 ice cream trucks with their megaphone noise from 7am to 8pm every 10 mins on your block, you would get sick of it after a few days. Ergo, b/c you dont experience things, your comments are fruitless and your arrogant ignorance is typical of people from the East side of the Nassau/Queens border.
Geez Stephanie and all you others who like to complain so much about people in Brooklyn who complain too much . if only you had learned to complain effectively, hotels brighton maybe you wouldn t have had to leave NYC! It s actually pretty great here.
For those of you who are so against helicopters and the economies provided by tourists who flock to your city, as well as extreme taxes paid by the big wig s who fly in them, I have this to say: GROW UP! You live in one of the largest cities in the world and you are direct benefactors from the economies made off of tourism flights and taxes paid by those fortunate enough to use the helicopter as a mode of every day transportation. Maybe instead of complaining, you should feel fortunate that you live in a city that so many people love and want to see, and one of the best way s to see your beautiful city is by air in a helicopter.
I live at the exact spot where the tourist helicopters make their turn to go back down river. Anytime any of you bleeding hearts want to spend a day in my apartment hotels brighton having to deal with the near-constant whirring noise of the helicopters, you are invited to do so. It is enough hotels brighton to give you PTSD.
And for anyone suggesting that I leave Manhattan, I have lived here my entire life, and am quite used to the various noises, including the necessary (sirens, etc.) and the annoying-but-unstoppable hotels brighton (e.g., car alarms). But, as noted, these are NECESSARY evils. Flying helicopters for tourists is not.
The industry people who have commented on this article are so obvious Stephanie, Jack and others. We live in this city the pilots do not. They make money torturing New Yorkers just to earn money. Tourists will still come without hotels brighton helicopter tours and they should be banned all together. The new routes will not be followed and someone is still going to hear the noise now on the river. The helicopters also are heavy polluters dumping metallic additives of jet fuel-A into our sky. The 45 million made by this company does not go to the City only taxes do and it s not worth it to continue making people who live here miserable.
Marzi, I could not disagree with you more. If you think the tiny percent of pollution from helicopters is bad, maybe you should figure out how much comes from every taxi in your city, and every ferry, and every police car, and every personally owned vehicle. It s too bad that these helicopter companies who are living the American Dream by starting as small companies and growing to what they are today have to be told to move out, move on, go fly somewhere else by people who could care less about the American Dream. Like I said before: GROW UP!
It s true that the community was opposed to the tourist flights and their effects on the surrounding neighborhood and parkland. But the lawsuit Friends of Hudson River Park filed to stop them was not simply hotels brighton because of those complaints. The Hudson River Park Act of 1998 banned helicopter tourism hotels brighton from the 30th Street heliport, and yet they were allowed to continue. We re glad that our action seeking to enforce exisiting laws has prompted a review of policy that make all of New York a more livable community.
The noise from dozens of helicopters all day must be terrible. How in the world did that ever even get started? It makes no difference how many jobs are lost. Suppose someone hotels brighton wanted to open a tannery that employed 500, would that be enough justification?
To respond to Marzi (#11), I m a pilot, I live in the city (near Central hotels brighton Park, so helicopters do fly over from time to time), and I consider aircraft noise to be almost negligible compared to all the other sorts of noise that one experiences as a city resident. There are all sorts of advantages to living in