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My impression is that there are a lot more junky colleges out there than there used to be the ones t
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Yet another bit of bleak data from Europe relating to new car sales. A popular school of thought holds that young people s aversion wyoming road and travel to cars is largely rooted in economic factors . When everyone under 30 is broke, living at home and wallowing in student debt, the last thing on their mind is a car. But the hope is that once things turn around, it will be time for Generation Y to get motoring again. At least in North America. Over in Europe (or certain parts of it, at least) things are much more bleak.
Youth unemployment in countries like Greece and Spain are at staggering levels. 54.2 percent of Greek youth are unemployed according to the above chart from The Atlantic . Spain is a little behind or slightly exceeding Spain, depending on your source s. The situation is less severe in other Eurozone countries, wyoming road and travel but still bad, as evidence wyoming road and travel by the figures for France, Ireland and the Eurozone as a whole. Germany remains a standout, wyoming road and travel as its youth unemployment rate of 8.2 percent is half of the United States rate and a third of the Eurozone s.
As the Atlantic article states, wyoming road and travel the unemployment crisis has been dragging on for years now, and there appears to be little end in sight. A lost generation of workers will of course mean a lost generation of car buyers for Europe s auto makers. If anyone is buying anything, it s low cost cars , as evidenced by the astonishing success of brands like Dacia , which have cannibalized sales of Renault in France.
This is definitely the case. Places like Southwestern Ontario and Newfoundland have the higest unemployment rates in the country. But there are plenty of other places in the country where they can t find enough workers.
I wouldn t blame retraining programs. Those are pretty vital to solving part of the problem. Relocation is difficult though. If you don t have the money to pay for the travel, it can be hard to move. Also, it can be very hard to sell a house and pay for moving a family from an economically hard-hit area (if no one is willing to buy the house, how does the move become possible?)
I wonder if stupid college majors are a world wide epidemic. I know I read an article in the NYT about China and how they had kids with degrees in things like trade show displays and so they wouldn t take the now decent paying blue collar jobs and lived off their moms.
All the baby boomers who spoonfed crap like major in what you love need to be smacked around. Now we have the occupy wall street types here in the States. Wall Street pretty much hires any serious degree like physics, math, computer science etc. But how many of those kids had sociology degrees?
In the US at least we ve tied college to self-worth. A 4 year degree has become a necessity when it shouldn t be. We feed kids the lie that they can grow up to be whatever they want to be and that the path to success starts with college 100% of the time. So we have people racking up 5-6 digits of student loan debt for degrees in Fine Arts.
I don t know how to fix it. I d be willing to bet that a solid 50% of people who go straight from high school into a 4 year university would be better off just looking for a job and foregoing wyoming road and travel a 4 year degree.
This is so true. The other, perhaps more insidious, part of this equation is that recent grads feel entitled to a job that is exciting, fulfilling, and high paying. Statements like Do what you love and you ll never work another day and related wyoming road and travel pablum have been the mantra for these kids entire lives and have poisoned their work ethic.
I have plenty of friends in their late 20s and early 30s with Philosophy and Arts degrees who are floating along with $10-$12 an hour jobs and occasional cash infusions from parents waiting for that dream job to suddenly materialize. When I suggest that they learn a trade or attend technical college they huff with indignation and swear that an offer to be a highly wyoming road and travel paid therapeutic interpretative dance instructor is due any minute.
There are plenty of jobs out there especially in technology; I deal with this shortage every day. The problem is that few young people are willing to suffer enough to learn the skills necessary to reach out and grab them.
Yeah, I think those in my/our generation will be a little more critical when handing over money to the children for the college experience. I ll help if the degree path will pay out later in life, but not a dime will be spent on a garbage degree. I think there s also be an under-appreciation for trade schools, an option I know I ll make sure my kids consider; because not everyone is cut out for college, and that s fine because it takes all types.
To say that Not everyone is cut out for college infers that the person who s not college material is somehow lesser then someone who is. It attaches a stigma to those who DO go the trade school route, which isn t good.
We can t pretend that everyone has an IQ above 100 and can get a hold a decent job in a modern economy if they just tried harder. Many folks are quite limited in their career prospects due to a severly limited amount of cognative ability.
jmo, the problem is that the ability to get through college does not indicate a higher level of intelligence. Task training at a good technical training school is likely wyoming road and travel to be just as challenging as the average four year institution.
Lesser is harsh. I know many people with fairly high IQs (or who are good at faking it) that aren t cut out for the STEM careers and don t have the family connections to land a job after graduating with a communications degree. These are the people who are slipping through the cracks.
As already stated the ability to get through college wyoming road and travel is not the be all end all mark of intelligence, I will grant that there are people out there who are simply not smart enough to survive in today s economy with anything better than a career slinging fast food or collecting SNAP benefits while stocking wyoming road and travel shelves at the local mart.
To the point, my reasoning for proposing a change in discourse is simply to encourage those who aren t what some would call book smart to possibly pursue the trades, rather than attend college and rack up debt for no other reason than That s just what you do because wyoming road and travel you re a loser if you don t at least have a BA .
How are you defining a decent college ? Even in the 90s, every school except the top 35-40 or so had an acceptance rate of 50% or higher. Even today, when acceptance rates are far lower at the top schools, it s maybe the top 50 schools that have acceptance rates lower than 50%. The University of Iowa which is ranked in the 50s, for example, has an almost 80% acceptance rate.
Some of that is self-selection. In Iowa, not everyone takes the ACT or SAT, like they would in more affluent suburban districts. So if you re applying to the University of Iowa in the first place, you re probably somewhat motivated.
What schools are you talking about that have decreased acceptance standards? Care to give examples? I can look to see if I have old USNews data to compare to current USNews data, but in many cases it would show that the students now have higher grades and higher SAT scores than they did before, and the acceptance rates are much lower at top schools (for example, Harvard s acceptance rate was probably about 12% in the 90s, but is around 6% now).
By the way, you can t look just at acceptance wyoming road and travel rate for state schools. The acceptance rate at UC Irvine is high because everyone who applies online to Berkeley, UCLA, and UCSD can check the box to apply to Irvine too, but their actual matriculation rate is much lower:
My impression is that there are a lot more junky colleges out there than there used to be the ones that I mentioned before the for-profit schools, many unaccredited ones, and the online schools. These are the colleges that are leading the boom in student loan debt. The quality schools are still quality schools.
I completely agree with your comment I believe there needs to be a fundamental change in how we view college vs. non-college "types" and Germany has a good system wyoming road and travel of trade schools and apprentices which other countries are trying to replicate. There better vocational education system is one reason youth unemployment is much lower than other European countries and the US. There is not as much of a stigma and engineering skills are valued as witnessed by the very strong German engineering industries (not just automotive).
No, not at all. Everyone isnt cut out for college just like everyone isnt cut out for hard labor. People have to find what they are good at. One of, if not the biggest growing field (IT) doesn t even require a college degree for many of its 6 figure career paths.
That may be true, but there are still many companies that won t hire you to certain positions without wyoming road and travel a bachelors degree (even if it s a skill based job that you have experience and an aptitude for) . or many who will, but will pay you less simply because you lack one. That doesn t mean you need one to be successful, just that certain career paths more or less require one if only to check a box on your resume.
That s a big part of the issue, companies essentially do not want to pay for training and have transferred that cost to you the employee. I have two degrees and one thing I have learned in the past eight years is I didn t know **** about the real IT world coming out of school. Every man in every business essentially serves out an apprenticeship at their first (or even second) job, its just that simple.
Very much agreed. Its probably dif
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