High? Yes, now it is but the base S is lacking a bunch of stuff like cruise control, nav, Carwings a

–A number of Hertz locations will be able to rent out Smart EVs for you. none of them actually have these cars on their lots; they have to book them from the Hertz fleet office in South SF. You can find the locations by putting in San Francisco, CA on this page: Where is this vehicle offered?
–The Smarts have carpool lane stickers on them but are the 2011 MY vehicles with the 2nd generation ED power train. What does that mean? Well, the electric motor has only 20 kW (with 30 kW burst output), the top speed is limited to 62 mph, there's a 16.5 kWh battery pack which takes 8 hours to charge virtual tours of homes for sale from 220V, and the 0-to-60 time is a graceful 26.7 seconds (no, that's not a typo).
Needless to say, neither of these options really worked for me. I needed a commuter vehicle that would take me from a train station to work and back 4 days a week, with a daily mileage about 30-40 miles (so 120-160 miles/week). Neither of these fit the bill, since I need to do highway driving and my hourly rate isn't high enough to justify a vehicle costing over $250/day.
San Francisco Oakland San Jose Area Nissan LEAF Offers - $199 Lease - $21,300 - $7,500 LEAF Tax Savings - Nissan USA is showing $199/mo 36 month leases for a base '13 Leaf (S trim... err... cheap model S ). Has no cruise control and no nav.
After we track tested the 2011 Smart ForTwo Electric Drive Passion virtual tours of homes for sale (smallest car with the biggest name), and realized how slow it was, it got me thinking. How would its acceleration curve compare to our long-term Nissan Leaf? It gets smoked by the Leaf.
For reviews of the ED, both previous and current gen, I looked at Autoblog (this was also how I knew immediately that I couldn't take the 2011 car when they showed it to me): 2013 Smart Fortwo Electric Drive First Drive and First Drive: 2011 Smart ForTwo Electric Drive makes a lot of sense for a few people
The lease is somewhat deceptively priced, because it requires a $2k downpayment and does NOT include tax in that price. So over the three years it comes out to ~$9200 before taxes, or $10k total. You can claim the CVRP credit of $2500 if you keep the car for all three years (which would be doubtful) – so that brings that net total to $7500. If we take out the $3k total I'm willing to pay, that's virtual tours of homes for sale $4500 over 33 months. Wonder if I'd be able to rent the car out on the remaining 33 months of the lease to cover that? That's $135/mo…dunno.
I wonder if buying would make more sense. KBB reports that a 2012 Leaf can be sold for ~$23k. This car retailed for $36k. That's a loss of $13k or 36%. A 30% loss on the $28k S corresponds to a $20,600 selling price…while the cost for a purchased Leaf including tax, minus IRS, would be ~$23k. So that fits in nicely virtual tours of homes for sale with my goals…but doesn't include insurance or the hassle of selling the car. Since CVRP requires you to keep the car for 3 years, I'm not really including it in the calculation.
For reviews of the ED, both previous and current gen, I looked at Autoblog (this was also how I knew immediately that I couldn't take the 2011 car when they showed it to me): 2013 Smart Fortwo Electric Drive First Drive and First Drive: 2011 Smart ForTwo Electric Drive makes a lot of sense for a few people
The lease is somewhat deceptively priced, because it requires a $2k downpayment and does NOT include tax in that price. So over the three years it comes out to ~$9200 before taxes, or $10k total. You can claim the CVRP credit of $2500 if you keep the car for all three years (which would be doubtful) – so that brings that net total to $7500. If we take out the $3k total I'm willing to pay, that's $4500 over 33 months. Wonder if I'd be able to rent the car out on the remaining 33 months of the lease to cover that? That's $135/mo…dunno.
I wonder if buying would make more sense. KBB reports that a 2012 Leaf can be sold for ~$23k. This car retailed for $36k. That's a loss of $13k or 36%. A 30% loss on the $28k S corresponds to a $20,600 selling price…while the cost for a purchased Leaf including tax, minus IRS, would be ~$23k. So that fits in nicely with my goals…but doesn't include insurance or the hassle of selling the car. Since CVRP requires you to keep the car for 3 years, I'm not really including it in the calculation.
virtual tours of homes for sale I wonder virtual tours of homes for sale if buying would make more sense. KBB reports that a 2012 Leaf can be sold for ~$23k. This car retailed for $36k. That's a loss of $13k or 36%. A 30% loss on the $28k S corresponds to a $20,600 selling price…while the cost for a purchased Leaf including tax, minus IRS, would be ~$23k. So that fits in nicely virtual tours of homes for sale with my goals…but virtual tours of homes for sale doesn't include insurance or the hassle of selling the car. Since CVRP requires you to keep the car for 3 years, I'm not really including it in the calculation.
Re: '12 Leaf is that supposed to be a dealer retail price or private party? SV or SL trim? Used EV prices are very confusing because of the Federal tax credit, CVRP (or other state incentives or lack of) and so on.
You might be able to buy someones used '11 or '12 Leaf and then sell it when you're done, hoping you lose less than $3K. But, you've virtual tours of homes for sale still got to worry about charging it. I think that's a better idea than trying to leaser for 2 or 3 years.
virtual tours of homes for sale You can see some posts at My Nissan Leaf Forum bull; View forum - Private For Sale, Want To Buy , but some folks didn't list what theirs went for. A few months ago, My Nissan Leaf Forum bull; View topic - 2011 Nissan LEAF SL Blue for sale $20,000 went very fast! Yet around that time, in another state, these cars.com had trouble selling theirs. They eventually got $19K: Selling Our Nissan Leaf Was, Well, Weird - KickingTires for their '11 SL (SL is the higher trim).
Now w/the lower price on the '13 and a new lower trim level along w/some other improvements ( 2013 Nissan LEAF Product Highlights - SF BayLEAFs 2013 All-American LEAF Pricing Announced, Starting at $28.8K - SF BayLEAFs 2013 Nissan LEAF Model Overview - SF BayLEAFs ), that makes the '11 and '12s a bit harder to price.
Re: '12 Leaf is that supposed virtual tours of homes for sale to be a dealer retail price or private party? SV or SL trim? Used EV prices are very confusing because of the Federal tax credit, CVRP (or other state incentives or lack of) and so on.
You might be able to buy someones used '11 or '12 Leaf and then sell it when you're done, hoping you lose less than $3K. But, you've still got to worry about charging it. I think that's a better idea than trying to leaser for 2 or 3 years.
like I said, charging won't be a problem. I would be driving 30-40 miles/day, 4 days a week, and there's plenty of chargers to use at work. that would be only until May…after that, presumably I'd drive even less. but then there's the cost of insurance and the headache of selling the damn thing…
You can see some posts at My Nissan Leaf Forum bull; View forum - Private For Sale, Want To Buy , but some folks didn't list what theirs went for. A few months ago, My Nissan Leaf Forum bull; View topic - 2011 Nissan LEAF SL Blue for sale $20,000 went very fast! Yet around that time, in another state, these cars.com had trouble selling theirs. They eventually virtual tours of homes for sale got $19K: Selling Our Nissan Leaf Was, Well, Weird - KickingTires for their '11 SL (SL is the higher trim).
Now w/the lower price on the '13 and a new lower trim level along w/some other improvements virtual tours of homes for sale ( 2013 Nissan LEAF Product Highlights - SF BayLEAFs 2013 All-American LEAF Pricing Announced, Starting at $28.8K - SF BayLEAFs 2013 Nissan LEAF Model Overview - SF BayLEAFs ), that makes the '11 and '12s a bit harder to price.
btw, I called virtual tours of homes for sale a local Nissan dealer, and they said that they don't know of any dealers virtual tours of homes for sale who rent out cars. Seems odd, since Toyota does it. Also called up a bunch of Enterprise locations, who used to rent out Leafs, but apparently have stopped doing so (due to charging issues…seriously??).
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High? Yes, now it is but the base S is lacking a bunch of stuff like cruise control, nav, Carwings and CHAdeMO port. Back then, the '13 Leaf hadn't been introduced yet and we definitely didn't know the price back then.
Perhaps subscribe to My Nissan Leaf Forum bull; View forum - Private For Sale, Want To Buy and hang out on MNL. Some folks have floated the idea of selling their Leafs and sometimes have gotten shockingly virtual tours of homes for sale low values like My Nissan Leaf Forum bull; View topic - How dealers value used Leafs .
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